Category: Where are they now?

Sally Booth

A photo of a painting taken from above of a London underground station with paint tubes water and a paintbrush a plate for a palette and a mug of tea
Sally Booth’s painting of a London Underground Station whilst in Lockdown

Sarah Pickthall meets Sally Booth

In the first month of the COVID-19 contagion, I dropped visual artist and Sync alumni, Sally Booth, an email to see where she was up to in isolation and whether she would be up for a catch-up on all things cancelled and on what it’s like pressing the re-start button on her career.

Sally wrote an article about her practice for our Sync programme back in 2010.  A decade on from the Sync Leadership programme in 2010, Sally has gone from strength-to-strength and has been in regular employment as an artist and facilitator, returning to the UK just a few days before lockdown from a successful cultural exchange in Chicago with Shape Arts.

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Chicago Skyline, drawing by Sally Booth, March 2020

From Edges and Extremes across Shetland and Cornwall with showcases and performances at the Turbine Hall, Tate Modern, to sketch-booking on the London tube, her portfolio career has combined commissions and training around the social model of disability.  As a regular trainer for VocalEyes, Sally explores and shares the depth of her experience of visual impairment, bringing art and culture alive through audio description.

Speaking together in the fourth week of lockdown in England, Sally shared that the solitude was lovely to start with and very familiar to her as an artist, but after a few days, the impact of losing all foreseeable work and the impending isolation ‘hit home hard.’  My email to reconnect led Sally to address the digital gaps in her day-to-day routine. Whilst her website won a Jodi Award for Accessibility in 2009, her lack of access to social media, and more importantly digital meet-ups and hangouts, so relied upon by us all, was painfully thin.

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Sally works out Zoom on her iPad with her neighbours

In preparation for our Sync Zoom interview, with the help of the neighbours, Sally managed to download Zoom and apps onto on her iPad, creating captions and audio of our conversations. This will help with captioning the short film we made and she will continue to use this tech, despite its limitations. Sally has even been doing audio descriptions of her pictures over the fence.

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Sally and her father playing ‘Pick-up Sticks.’

Together we were able to have a joyful conversation, exploring a new leadership metaphor that explains very clearly the experience of having to start-over a childhood game she played with her father, called ‘Pick-up Sticks’.  We also spoke of intimacy; that we will both miss the nuances of working closely with people, be that in training, coaching or at a gallery. We both remarked that despite this, we had in our virtual reminiscing together rekindled our lovely rapport and laughed our socks off.  You can watch the video of our conversation with an Audio description introduction for the film underneath.

A film of Sally Booth talking with Sarah Pickthall about leadership metaphors
Audio Description of Sally and Sarah’s Zoom conversation

Won Young Kim

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Won Young in an improvised film performance, Seoul, 2019

When Won Young Kim took part in Sync Korea, he was exploring a dilemma: that of needing to continue to practice law to meet the responsibility of supporting his family – but with his heart very much taken up with developing his artistic practice. Since that time, using a simple metaphor, he has managed to blend both ambitions, honouring both his values and his desire to make great artwork and challenge ideas and thinking around aesthetics in South Korea and beyond.

Sarah Pickthall talks with Won Young Kim

Meeting online in May, Won and I spoke of the impact of Covid in our respective cities, me in Brighton and Won in Seoul. This hadn’t been the first time we had met up together since running Sync in Korea in 2018, the last time being to work on a profile of Disability Arts in South Korea for Disability Arts International in 2018.

Won shared that there had been a lot of disabled activists challenging the government and some successful and significant movement in moving people out of institutions during the pandemic, ensuring disabled people had the right to be treated in hospitals alongside everyone else. This had felt like a huge achievement and a step forward politically in South Korea.

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Won Young Kim

Law has been part of Won’s life for many years, but there has always been the underlying compulsion to make artwork, be that theatre, dance or live art. At the time of Sync in 2018, Won reminded me that I had just simply asked him one question: why? Why wasn’t he able to do both? What was stopping him? This simple question was the start of him finding a way to bring both interests into play, culminating in some acclaimed performances in Seoul in 2019.

“The artworks described a piece of fictitious law – ‘An Act of Love and Friendship,’” he told me, and as part of this performance he told the audience about this law. Alongside this, Won made a significant step to get out of his chair, something he had never done in public before. “I was worried at the time, that audiences would see me doing this as ‘a freak show.”

On the contrary the work was felt by many to be visceral and powerful but not in a patronising way. The ‘move’ was received well with people quite active across popular mainstream culture, lauding it and his work being nominated for an award.

Won went on to talk of the ‘big trousers’ that he has over many years worn, to assume a so-called ‘normal form.’ It seemed this was important for him to appear a certain way when out in the world from a very early age and through his legal career.  An artistic colleague and friend drew his attention to the performance work of UK dance artist and performer, David Toole, someone who has used his physicality in bold and exciting ways in a career that has not shied away from the public gaze.

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Won Young Kim performing in Love and Friendship Act by Zero(0)set Project, Seoul, 2019

Won can now more easily see himself pursuing his performance work, with plans temporarily on hold, to do workshops with choreographer Adam Benjamin when restrictions are lifted and international travel is possible again.  This fed into our conversation about the Sync metaphor he chose during the course in Seoul in 2018, which I had remembered as ‘The Game of Go.’  Won reminded me that it wasn’t the game itself but the simple ‘ordinary’ stone that was the metaphor.  

As disabled people, when we are in the confines of our own spaces, away from the gaze of others, getting out of a chair or moving in a way that suits us isn’t something we necessarily think about. However, how we reveal ourselves in public can be a very different matter, as we bid to conform with what society deems acceptable.   

This has now extended into how we show up in virtual spaces too, and the potential is there for us all to be a bit more flexible and relaxed in this respect. Here’s an article on the Softer Edges of Online-ness.

Dolly Sen

In late April, writes Sarah Pickthall, I had the chance to tap into the brilliant mind of Dolly Sen to see where her Sync thinking was, in this, the time of COVID-19. I found Dolly to still be the subverter, albeit softer, calmer, more contained and in isolation by the sea, waiting for the right moment.

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Dolly Sen by the sea in 2020

In a bid to draw together contemporary disabled and Deaf Sync alumni leadership perspectives for a refresh of Sync Leadership online in May 2020, Dolly Sen was an obvious choice.

Having interviewed Dolly several years ago when she was part of Sync Leadership in the UK, I was curious to see how this artist, activist and curator, performer and filmmaker was using subversion to chart her particular approach to life and her practice. I wanted to know what, if anything, had shifted and changed in how she was making work and fighting for what is right.

She has certainly focused more exclusively on her art practice more recently curating a group show at Bethlem Gallery.

Our conversation started with a fond reference to Homer Simpson, an underrated philosopher in her mind, who, taking his daughter Lisa’s reference to the word crisis, in Chinese characters blending ‘danger-opportunity’ (危機) coined the indelible phrase, ‘Crisistunity’. The current pandemic challenge is potentially brutal and yet provides a very clear crisistunity for Dolly. “People at last are seeing and experiencing the cannibalised health and social care system, the decimation of benefits,” she shared.

The need to strike whilst this particular iron of COVID-19 is hot feels pressing. “I can reach more people, who have seen it with their own eyes, not just in the abstract. Normal is what was wrong in the first place. I am beginning to see how I can use this really harsh time to change things for the better.”

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Dolly at the Wellcome Collection, 2020

She reminded me that she’s never had a particular strategy or approach, rather using the power of intention and waiting for the right time for her ideas to emerge.

Submerged as we are in a glut of resilience noise online, posting across social media is where we see her ideas and artwork more consistently now compared with when we first met. 

Since the start of the pandemic, she’s been releasing light-hearted useless hints and tips for lockdown to this effect. “If you laugh at something, it loses it’s dark power.” Her output is hosted in a blog on the long-established Disability Arts Online website.

“If you laugh at something, it loses it’s dark power.”

Dolly Sen

The arrival of Scamp the family dog has additionally provided a great way to connect differently with new audiences. We’ve always loved Dolly for her enduring love of all things sheep in her work and everyday; but upping her social media output with Scamp in tow, she has been approached by people using him as a conversation starter and first step to securing major commissions, though some of these, like many things, are now on hold. 

Dolly shared that she was feeling surprisingly calm and grounded in the face of the enormity of COVID-19 and the inevitable loss we are experiencing, and yet to experience. We spoke about how this may be informed by a life of surviving serious discrimination and changing mental health. Had that experience possibly made her more realistic, and grounded, in the face of extreme events?

A picture of a red plastic charity tin saying 'Help the Normals' and 2 boxes of Dignity pills that say "Dignity cannot be taken 4 times a day" The credit in the photo says Dolly' Sen's '"Dignity" is shown (Courtesy of the Wellcome Collection).
Dolly Sen’s “Dignity” features a prescription pill box that proclaims “Dignity cannot be taken 4 times a day”. (Image courtesy of the Wellcome Collection)

For me, as co-creator of Sync, this illustrates how important our lived experiences of resilience in the light of disaster are. It also shines a light on the need for leadership as we emerge from the pandemic as a society and this is what these Sync think-pieces will tap into. For many of us, a lifetime of restrictive and radical events has required us to be grounded in the face of adversity. The question we have now is how best to place and position the strength of disabled leadership, whilst so many of us will be in lock down for longer.

Sofya Gollan

Sofya Gollan had so many credits and achievements to her name when she joined the Sync Aus programme in 2015; yet she felt she had hit a place and time in her life where she wasn’t progressing. Even if we have credits and accreditations, the subtle and not so subtle barriers in society continue to discriminate against our Deaf and disabled professional progression – and stop us in our tracks.

Sofya in a bright red jacket in the passenger seat of a car, giving direction to an actor in a hoodie behind the wheel.
Sofya Gollan – on set, directing her short film, Gimpsey (2016)

Sarah Pickthall talks with Sofya Gollan

I met with Sofya online in May to discuss the impact of Sync way back then in helping her shed her skin and think again. She is now holding a position of authority as Screen Investment Manager at Screen NSW. Sofya and I share a history of sorts – our involvement in inclusive television. For myself, this meant working for 10 years as part of the Art Attack Team in the UK with their ‘sister’ project ZZZap, which was designed to include deaf children along with mainstream programming for children in the UK. I wrote scripts for the show and my hands, now retired, were The Handymen. Sofya, quite early in her career, joined the presenter team at Play School in Australia and has been involved in the programme for over 30 years alongside a career in media.

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Sofya Gollan presenting on Play School, for ABC, Australia

An award-winning director and writer of documentary and drama films, Sofya’s films have been screened in major international festivals over the decade. One of her most recent short films, GIMPSEY, which she wrote and directed, was nominated for an ACCTA Award in 2017 in the Social Shorts and is featured at the beginning of the film we made when we spoke together on Zoom.  

Loving a leadership metaphor, and that being a part of what we explore in a Sync programme, I asked her to recall the one she chose all those years ago. She was unable to recall it, which in itself was quite funny.  Yet choosing a leadership metaphor doesn’t mean you have to stick with it. 

A fluorescent green snake shedding the skin from it's head.

In fact we can choose different metaphors and analogies that reflect where we are at any one time in our professional careers. Our conversation continued with a focus on Sync being something that allowed her to shed her skin like a snake. 

Watch the video of our conversation – including short clips of Sofya’s film Chlorine Dreams (1998, 10mins.) A young girl finds a ghost-like boy living in her pool.

Sofya and Sarah talk over Zoom, May 2020
Audio Description of the Zoom conversation between Sofya Gollan and Sarah Pickthall

It’s not just the deafness but the intersectional experience of gender identity and being a person with a disability, she explained. The industry is still so biased in so many ways.  The blend of being deaf and a woman was hitting hard at the time, so how did Sync help? ‘Well, I think it was in our coaching that we explored the idea of saying yes to everything.’  I remembered the coaching conversation we’d had at the time. 

Sometimes adopting a different strategy for a while can bring an unforeseen opportunity. Putting herself ‘out there’ was not new to Sofya but in the face of rejection and doors slamming, choosing this with a lighter, less defeated strategy, of saying ‘yes, why not?,’ felt different. With Sofya well known to audiences in Australia, she already had the natural ability to put herself out there, but driving this in a different way. 

Shedding the skin of old tactics and bringing in the new paid off.  The first opportunity she said yes to, ‘can be directly attributed to getting me to where I am now’ she shared. It was that simple.  

In her role now, investing in other people, she is responsible for the end-to-end management of screen content that ranges from international co-productions to stand-alone short films. Not only that, as a creative, she still holds a passion for narrative development in VR and is making her own work shedding the skin of other people’s thinking with a focus on new lived experiences in compelling story lines. 

Sync allows you to rethink things, gives you the time, the space and the attention to refresh yourself and renew. So why not you? Whether you are part of Sync now or are thinking of applying to be so, our plans are to share insights and activity in the weeks and months ahead. That’ll be about taking a different tack, shedding your own skin, breaking through and seeing what emerges in these very taxing times.